There really isn’t a reputable news source out of the major news networks. While not all of them are as bad as former ABC News political chief Mark Halperin, all of them have some pretty awful contributors.
CNN.com is my primary news source online and their albatross is Lou Dobbs. Today, he wrote a rather amazing editorial defending himself against an OpEd in the NY Times that criticized his show. It’s amazing because he actually doesn’t defend himself.
I don’t want to get into the specifics of the two articles. If you’re interested, read the Times OpEd first, then Dobbs’s article to have them in the proper chronological order. Instead, I’ll just highlight some parts of Dobbs’s response:
Today’s New York Times column is primarily a personal attack on me, focuses on an ad-lib on the set of this broadcast uttered more than two years ago by Christine Romans on a number of cases of leprosy in this country. …
But today’s scurrilous personal attack from The New York Times columnist David Leonhardt, carrying the water of the Southern Poverty Law Center, also has the facts wrong.
So, you read this and, think, “Gosh, I wonder what the Times got wrong?” After all, a “scurrilous personal attack” will be primarily wrong on the charges, right? Let’s see what Dobbs says the charges are:
He wrote that I said, quote, that “One third of the inmates in the federal prison system are illegal immigrants.” That isn’t what I said. I didn’t say anything close to it.
Here’s where it gets weird. So, Dobbs denies saying it, but Leonhardt (unlike Dobbs, I’ll note) actually links to the transcripts on CNN.com. If you go there, you’ll find:
DOBBS: … One-third of the inmates in our federal prisons come from another country. The cost, staggering. Bill Tucker reports.
Sure, he doesn’t say “illegally” in there, but what’s the implication? Apparently nothing relevant, as Dobbs continues in his “defense”:
We reported that one-third of the federal prison population three and a half years ago were non-citizens. The columnist said the number was 6 percent. The exact number of the year in question was 29.3 percent for fiscal year 2001. And by the way, we’re putting up links on our Web site, loudobbs.com, so you can check the numbers for yourself.
I introduced that report three and a half years ago by saying the number of illegal immigrants in our prisons was increasing and the financial burden rising. Well, we had to go back and check, and because our correspondent no longer has his notes to support that statement, that the number of illegal immigrants within a prison population of non-citizens, I have to retract it here tonight, and I apologize to you for the necessity of doing so. But like I said, I do make mistakes.
Nowhere in the original transcript, by the way, will you see any qualification of the numbers as coming from 2001 (the Dobbs report originally aired in 2003). That might not seem that important except for one thing. Something significant happened in 2001 (around September) that caused a change in how the government handles non-citizens who commit crimes… deportation is swift, even if the person is a lawful, greencard holding resident.
On the other hand, Dobbs is right about one thing: Leonhardt’s numbers were for all prisons in the U.S. while Dobbs’s 29% is for the federal system. Of course, I still come back to, “so what” since nothing in either sets of numbers speaks to illegal vs. legal immigrants.
What next, Lou? (actually, I skipped one, it’s trivial)
That columnist also said I gave air time to white supremacists, and mentions one by name, Madeleine Cosman, who wrote the article that Christine Romans used as a source for her later leprosy statement.
The fact is, I made a mistake, and I’ve said we would never have used her as a source if we had known of her controversial background two years ago, at the time of the offending ad-lib. But the columnist fails to note that his own paper wrote a glowing obituary of Madeleine Cosman when she died last year.
OK, so you made a mistake, and the only thing you can add is, “But you did it, too!” Classy.
Next up:
And the columnist writes that I suggested that new immigration reform bill would be the first step to a North American union. Nope. What I did say is that the proposed legislation, favored by President Bush and Senator Kennedy and others who are misguided, contains language in Section 413 that, if approved by Congress, would endorse and legitimize the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, which is the foundation of this administration’s efforts to create a North American union, and which would further threaten, in my opinion, our national sovereignty.
So, though it’s not “the first step” to a North American union, it would further the “administration’s efforts to create a North American union.” So, what, it’s step 2 or 3? What the hell is he clarifying here?
Look, I had fun writing this in part because Dobbs makes it easy. He paints himself as some man of the people speaking truth to power. I would be willing to accept that if he actually did more than pander to the “middle class.” So much of his show is based on reinforcing that “everyone is coming to get you!” Even that might be OK if he could actually make sound arguments.
I don’t necessarily have to agree with the guy to respect him, but he doesn’t even try to make sense. Like Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, and the other blowhards on radio and TV, Dobbs makes his arguments simply by assertion. He simply hopes that most of his viewers will just assume that he wouldn’t be so cavalier with the facts. Unfortunately, his viewers would be wrong.






May 31st, 2007 at 11:37 am
Lou seems bloated every time he appears in his show. Bloated with fictitious facts he apparently gets while sleeping. May be the aliens (from outer space) are beaming them in directly into his spongy brain.
May 31st, 2007 at 9:37 pm
Lou Dobbs IS a white racist supremicist who thinks he is superior virtue of that fact alone. I know he makes no sense at all so I just figured that he is a typical drunk. But every day and day after day all he talks about are the Mexicans. People he can’t hold a candle to - and if he ever met them he would know that he is outclassed. But if he pumps up the wrong people and someone gets hurt, well, then what. I just wish CNN would get the old fart off the air.
June 3rd, 2007 at 5:37 pm
I totally disagree with Lou on this issue, but…Lou made his statements in 2003. The DOJ pdf file that Leonhardt links to is from mid-2005 – obviously it takes awhile for the government to get data out. If Leonhardt had to cite 2005 data in 2007 (as he did), we can assume that Lou had to cite 2001 data in 2003. As far as the federal state distinction, from what I understand most immigration violations are federal offenses, not state. Including the state population in the calculation conveniently dilutes the overall number (from 19% in 2005 to 6%). If it’s not relevant (as you claim), Leonhardt should have made that point, not cited a 6% figure. This is not a defense of Lou Dobbs; I disagree with him on this and many other issues. But I’m irritated that Leonhardt is so obviously misrepresenting reality and misleading readers. It’s especially ironic given the point of the article.
June 3rd, 2007 at 10:36 pm
Craig, two points.
1 — I would agree that Leonhardt made a mistake. Judging from the text, it seems like it was an honest mistake. All I would ask from Leonhardt is what Dobbs should’ve done, which is own up to the mistake and apologize. Dobbs couldn’t be bothered, but I’m hoping for more from Leonhardt.
2. The Dobbs claim with the 29% number is still pointless, so Leonhardt’s error is not that big a deal. The larger issue with the 29% number is that it shed’s no particular light on whether Illegal immigrants commit crimes. We have no breakdown on the immigration status of these criminals, just that they are ‘non-citizens.’ Perfectly legal greencard holding long term residents could qualify depending on the definition off “non-citizen.” I didn’t mention it in the post above (it didn’t seem relevant) but I checked out the BOP data that Dobbs linked to. His “non-apology” reinforces my point, btw.
The larger point, that Dobbs has established a pattern of using questionable sources and facts to further his agenda of scaring people, is still intact in Leonhardt’s piece even without the 6% number. One mistake in a list of otherwise on point corrections doesn’t take down the whole argument.