
We made our first major post-wedding purchase. We bought a dishwasher, because ours had been on its way out for awhile. Being research fanatics, we bought a subscription to Consumer Reports to research brands. After learning about some of the checklist features, we liked the LG a lot for its low water usage and lower energy usage. We also really like our LG washer and dryer. After talking to some of the salespeople at Best Buy and S.K. Lavery (a local appliance store), we were convinced about the unknown history of LG dishwashers. Funny how it didn’t bother us when we bought the washer and dryer. Ultimately, we had some gift cards for Sears, so we decided to buy from there.
When you’re looking for a dishwasher, you’ll pretty much find they’re all very similar. The major things to look out for:
- Efficiency: Water and energy usage vary a lot, so keep an eye out for these statistics.
- Stainless Steel Tub: Stainless doesn’t hold odors or stain like ceramic or other types of interiors
- Heating coils or not: The Bosch models don’t have a heating element exposed in the tub. We’ve melted a number of stirrers, Nalgene bottle caps, and other things that slip out of the bottom rack, so we dislike the exposed element.
- Adjustable top racks/utensil trays: Flexibility is the name of the game here. Some models, the Kenmores in particular, have racks that can be adjusted without removing it.
- Noise: This seems to be a big selling point but we think it’s overrated. The quietest models will cost you a bit more.
There are incidental things, too. Appearance is one place you have choices. There are stainless exteriors for those of you that want to match your Viking stove, and there are hidden controls for those of you that want to have your appliances just blend into the cabinets. You can get panels for many of the models to really blend into your cabinet finishes.
One other thing: most modern dishwashers have a grinder that chops up food. The Bosch models have a filter system that gets most food but also needs to get cleaned out.
We looked at the various options and the different came down to a Bosch or a Kenmore. Kenmore appliances are actually appliances made by other major manufacturers with Sears specific tweaks or additions, so we were actually looking at a couple of Kenmores made by Whirpool and one Kenmore Elite made by Bosch.
After finding out about the $100 rebate on delivery for buying a Kenmore Elite, we decided to get a Kenmore Elite. The two models we considered were a Kenmore Elite (#13752) made by Whirlpool (with a stainless steel interior, some water saving features — sensor wash, which Consumer Reports says may not be all that water saving) and a grinder OR the Kenmore Elite (#16302) made by Bosch with the sensor wash, a stainless interior, no heating coil inside, and the food trap/filter instead of grinder. Both had adjustable top shelves and numerous other fancy features.
After considering both, we went with the Kenmore/Bosch. We liked the no element design and the simplicity of the look. The Kenmore version of the Bosch was a bit cheaper. The adjustable top rack was also a big draw because it could be adjusted without removing the whole rack. Since we load our dishes over two or more days before running the dishwasher, this made the most sense. We’re not going adjust the height with a half-loaded top rack if we have to take it completely out.
So far, we’re pretty happy, but have found some reasons to second guess our purchase. We did our first load last night, and it does clean pretty well. One glass had some schmutz on it this AM, but overall it seemed to do a nice job of cleaning. One drawback is the drying. The dishes seemed to mainly be dry, but the whole interior of the machine was quite wet. It stayed wet, too. The manual suggests propping the door open after the cycle to help the dishes in drying, so we’re wondering if this is going to be a recurring problem. We’re worried that it might start smelling in there with water droplets on everything, stainless steel or not. We’ll write an update when we find out more.
The salesman did mention that the Bosch doesn’t have an exhaust vent (for the air inside) unlike most of the other dishwashers. Perhaps it’s more important than we realized.
Speaking of the salesman, our salesman was one of those guys who says, “I’m not pushy, because I want you to be customers for life,” but at the same time, he maybe had a bit too much info, info that wasn’t 100% accurate. Some of what he said didn’t match up with what we’d read on Consumer Reports. He also seemed to be pulling water usage quotes out of thin air.
We were pretty dissatisfied with Sears’ service. On top of the less than fully informed salesman, he assured us we would have our new dishwasher installed by Friday (we purchased on Wednesday. He said we’d get a call the next day. We didn’t. We got a call Friday afternoon after we called Sears, and delivery was set up for the following Tuesday.
– Heidi & Sujal





August 10th, 2006 at 10:41 PM
We can’t put in a dishwasher as the countertop is a few inches too low and we don’t have another place it might fit in the kitchen. So check your snail mail, as I’m sick of washing dishes and with your new dishwasher…
BTW, late congratulations on the marriage.
August 11th, 2006 at 11:37 AM
“Noise: This seems to be a big selling point but we think it’s overrated. The quietest models will cost you a bit more.”
Wait until you have kids, then you will understand how noise of a dishawsher is not underrated.
Our dishwasher died in May. I mean “died”; stopped working mid-cycle.
Our old dishwasher sounded like a jet engine. It came with the house… but because of the sound, couldn’t use it at night because it would wake up the kids. Couldn’t use it at nap time for the same reason. You had to literally be on another level of the house in order to have a conversation without talking…. I remember Jish being two feet away from me at our dining room table while the diswasher was on and we were literally screaming to be heard over the sound…
Anyway, congrats on the purchase….
and congrats, on the wedding again!
Have a great day!
August 11th, 2006 at 12:35 PM
I was just trying to say that they’re all really pretty quiet these days. It’s hard to buy a dishwasher that is that bad on noise. The consumer reports ratings only had a very small number of models rating negatively on noise.
August 15th, 2006 at 10:54 PM
We went for a Kenmore too – a middle of the road model. We are fully satisfied.
It’s not perfectly quiet, but our kids and us have never had a problem sleeping from the sound of the dishwasher — even though the bedrooms are about 12 feet away from the dishwasher. Shouldn’t even be an issue in your house.
We didn’t go with the stainless steel interior either, as my salesman said that it won’t make a difference unless you are planning to keep your dishwasher for 20 yrs +.
We stopped using the “smart wash” because it seemed to last a lot longer and didn’t seem to be more energy efficient. Also we frequently just use Air Dry to save on energy costs and all the heat that is generated by the dishwasher. The dishes are dry by morning if we run it at bedtime.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:47 AM
(from Heidi) — I’ve got to say that I’m not 100% pleased with the Bosch (Kenmore Bosch). Sounds like you went with a better model, Sis. But Sujal has been doing some checking around on the web to see some tips for optimal usage of the machine. Powder vs. liquid seems to be very important (though it’s very important to me to use phosphate-free cleaners), and I think propping the door open after a wash will help it dry.
And frankly, I like the white noise from washers… It helps me sleep. I credit this to the fact that my mother used to use the vacuum cleaner when she’d put me down for naps when I was a baby. Now I get very sleepy when I hear a vacuum cleaner or a hair dryer. Zzzzzzzzz.
August 16th, 2006 at 12:34 PM
(this is really Sujal again)
The fact that I have to do research, however, to simply use a dishwasher should say something by itself.
August 16th, 2006 at 2:44 PM
True Dat!
August 16th, 2006 at 6:28 PM
As luck would have it, we forgot to hit Air Dry last night and found Jon’s favorite Starbucks travel coffee cup melted.
My vote is for the low-tech air dry — prop that door open!
July 27th, 2007 at 12:55 PM
Hi,
We are now in July, ‘07, and I’m looking at the Kenmore Elite (the one made by Bosch). Your initial comments led me to wonder about whether or not this is a good investment. Are you still happy with it? What are the pros and cons now that you have had it for awhile?
Thanks, Vicki
July 27th, 2007 at 1:41 PM
We like it overall. It cleans well, and for drying — to save energy, you could just prop the door open after a wash. It’s a good machine though. We recommend it.
January 6th, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Sears service is horrible and the Kenmore Elite Bosch is a lemon. We bought one less than 3 years ago and sears has been here 4 times trying to fix it – no luck. After a Thanksgiving with 20 people and a Christmas with the same – we finally gave up on sears actually fixing the dishwashing machine and bought a new one last night.
July 13th, 2008 at 11:17 PM
We have a Bosch. My husband loves it and I can’t stand it. The tines in the racks (the pegs to hold up dishes or hold them in place) don’t seem to make sense — they’re spaced weirdly and far too short to hold anything up and the top rack is almost devoid of tines. The owners’ manual shows dishes piled on top of dishes – definitely the only option w/ the weird tines but not so great for actually cleaning the top layer. Also, as others have noted, the dishes do not dry. I’ve read on some sites that adding the “rinse agent” helps w/ drying, but so far we just have wet dishes. It also runs forever and ever – I think the reason it’s “energy efficient” has nothing to do w/ the wash cycle and is really only b/c it does not dry the dishes. I do agree that it is ultra quiet, but that’s all I like.
July 14th, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Helene, the rinse agent is actually key for the drying system to work. Even then, my wife props open the door after the cycle is finished so that the steam gets out faster (and thus doesn’t settle on any convex surfaces in the dishwasher).
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:41 PM
We have a Bosch Ascenta Dishwasher and we absolutely love it. It is extremely quite and best of all it has an Energy Star rating so we know we aren’t wasting to much energy just to clean our dishes. I highly recommend it to anyone looking for a solid dishwasher model.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Bosch dishwashers are great in my opinion, they are very quiet, energy efficient & on some models the wash time can even be reduced, they are also very reliable.
March 7th, 2010 at 12:20 AM
We have always been extremely satisfied with our Bosch dishwasher. It was an incredible difference with the other one we had (fridgedaire). I used to have to plan when to turn on the dishwasher because of the noise and the dishes were never completly clean. This is my second bosch dishwasher and I find the dishes are clean even if I don’t rinse them and I forget it’s on it’s so quiet. Lately, I have realized that the dishes are not completely dry and I was wondering if something was wrong. searching through the web I read comments about the drying. On my old Bosch, I used to open the door before the drying cycle to save on heating costs and the dishes were fine. Now, I don’t do that and they are sometimes a little wet. I will try to leave the door open at the end to see if the problem solves itself, other than that I would highly recommend it, love it.