I’m turning into a big fan of the POV documentary series on PBS. This week’s documentary was The Fire Next Time, a documentary about the unrest in the Flathead Valley in Montana. It’s a story about the conflicts between citizens over land use, militias, and development in this growing valley. The film focuses on the threat of violence against citizens and conservation activists. One of the primary antagonists in the movie is John Stokes, a Washington resident who moved to Montana and bought an AM radio station. His schtick is the same as the Limbaughs of the world, except that he “jokes” about using violence to resolve their disagreements. One of his statements on camera, no less:
A recall is nothing more than another form of exercising a right. You know, we can’t assassinate in this country. We have to do it with an ink pen. [Laughing]
That’s right off of the closed captioning.
You might not be completely sure he’s joking, except that his facial expressions indicate disappointment over the illegality of assassination. That and well, the movie opens with a little background about the domestic terrorist group called Project Seven. The group plotted an elaborate scheme to kill government officials and police officers. Nice town…
Another interesting segment was about a unity meeting citizens organized to condemn some of the divisiveness going through the community. Among the testimonials shown during the movie was this fun statement by the local state senator:
Just because I like smaller government , less taxes, and individual liberty, doesn’t mean that I’m against colored people or gays or, or whatever. I’ve got — or Jews.
That’s Jerry O’Neill (R), Montana State Senator. Ah, you can feel the diversity oozing from the crowd. My favorite comes from citizen J.B. Stone:
All of my ancestors were Polish. They were also treated to violent acts, myself included in the 1960s by black people.
There’s not a black person in the entire movie, by the way. There were some Hispanic citizens in the film (one? two?), so I think that this is the primary minority group in town, but it’s hard to say.
Back to John Stokes. Another of his statements on camera:
The Third Reich was born out of the environmental community. I don’t make it up, it’s there.
He refers to the conservationists as “Green Nazis” and uses phrases like “all out war” and “eradicate” when talking about what their response should be. Like most far right wing radio talk show hosts, he uses God and country to divide people, claiming that conservationists (environmentalists to Stone) are “destroying America” and are “commies” who get their money from “Ted Turner.”
OK, enough making fun of this nutjob. The core of the film covers the progression of these disagreements from neighborly disagreements to vandalism and violence. In that light, this movie is eye opening. To see people who otherwise are so similar get to the point where they’re loosening lug nuts on cars and slashing tires was shocking to me. I couldn’t believe the level of disagreement between these people.
Often times I think, perhaps incorrectly, that differences have to have something tangible to build off of. Race, religion, ethnicity, something, you know? These folks are all white, from similar ethnic backgrounds, of the same religion, and are otherwise similar in many ways. The biggest difference seems to be class and wealth. In fact, that was the differentiator I noticed most. The folks on the environmentalist side seem to be at least slightly wealthier. And the land use battle, of course, is a battle of which industries survive and which ones perish and with them, the jobs.
I can’t decide if the hate is more a part of the story than the land use and development issues that are the actual fault lines. The Stokes nutjob is portrayed as the guy fanning the flames of hate. From his bashing of Holocaust victims (claiming they didn’t defend their people, for example, and didn’t stand up for their fellow Jews) to constant calls to violence and broadcasting the home addresses of prominent opponents, John Stokes is at least enabling much of the violence.
The power of talk radio is front and center here, and I think it’s as important as anything else. The actual violence that these people are dealing with from the petty vandalism to the crazy stuff like sabotaging cars has roots in this divisive speech by folks like Stokes. He uses the typical tricks of right wing propaganda radio like Limbaugh or Hannity or others… there are liberals and good people and everyone that disagrees with the host is a liberal (how evil!), a communist, and a destroyer of all things American. Even the conservative Republican county commissioner is a liberal communist. Ah, irrationality.
If you get a chance, watch this one. It’s pretty good and it’s got some very powerful segments.





September 7th, 2005 at 9:23 am
Your comments are lacking in both respect and perspective…especially for someone preachifying on the effects of “public discussion”.
Due to some rather poor editing and an overall liberal bent in pushing “their” agenda on PBS for the purposes of creating a running advertisement for the Montana Hate Rhetoric Network…what you DON’T know is that my statement about racial bias and violence was in response to the “commonly accepted theory” that the Flathead Valley is some kind of cesspool of hatred and that the ONLY form of racist violence that exists is that perpetrated by Whites on Others….which is a very deep load of crap.
All in all, there ISN’T much “violence”, unless you consider Keith “Butter Wouldn’t Melt In His Mouth” Hammer’s history as a central contact for the environmental extremist group, EarthFirst!…who are well known for spiking trees, destroying logging equipment, and other “freedom of expression” activities….or his incessant Lawsuits, which are designed to DESTROY the local logging industry, not “save bears” as he so eloquently whimpers…
In FACT, the Enviro-Twits HAVE wreaked havoc on the local economy AND managed to stop all “treatment” of the National Forests hereabouts…whereby the bears they SWEAR they are “protecting” are treated to Catastrophic Level Forest Fires which COULD be prevented by thinning and logging activities…
But, no sweat…when you’ve got a Social Engineering Project to complete…
Who CARES whether the TRUTH is employed in the proces…???
“The establishment of an American Soviet will involve the confiscation of large and small landed estates in town and country and also, the whole body of forests, mineral deposits, lakes, rivers and so on” “Toward Soviet America” William Z. Foster, National Chairman of the Communist Party, USA, 1932
“IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW MANY LIES WE TELL, BECAUSE ONCE WE HAVE WON, NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.” MINUTED STATEMENT BY DR. GOEBBELS TO ADOLF HITLER, EARLY 1930s “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich”, by William L Shirer.
September 7th, 2005 at 9:55 am
Here’s some more my “sentiment-oozing” thoughts…
http://billingsnews.com/index_html?issue=165
http:/newsmax.com/commentmax/get.pl?a=2000/10/2/210750
http://www.off-road.com/land/do_not_fear.html
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quoting YOU:
All of my ancestors were Polish. They were also treated to violent acts, myself included in the 1960s by black people.
There’s not a black person in the entire movie, by the way. There were some Hispanic citizens in the film (one? two?), so I think that this is the primary minority group in town, but it’s hard to say.
Another point the film alided was that the producer was brought to town because of a PRIOR “documentary”, “Not In Our Town”…in which, Billings is depicted as the epicenter of “Indian-Hating Whiteys”…..
There are two DIFFERENT versions of the film…one that was aired in the area, and a much shorter and murkier version to which you refer.
And, so…
MY “favorite quote by J.B. Stone” is here:
http://www.pbs.org/pov/pov2005/thefirenexttime/talking_kalispell.html
But, hey…THANKS for the uninformed slagging…!!!