We finally broke down and bought a new washer and dryer. Our old washer is making this crazy knocking sound during spin cycles and sounds like it wants to throw the clothes out of it. Our dryer seems fine, honestly, but isn’t very efficient and doesn’t dry all that well. So, we’re getting a new washer and dryer. Since the old ones are fine, we’re going to have them move the dryer and washer into the utility part of the basement.
Because we are who we are, Heidi and I spent the whole afternoon running between Sears, Home Depot, and Best Buy comparing washers and dryers. Our criteria were fluid. We mostly valued efficiency and quietness. We figured it would be nice to have a set that would last us through whenever we had kids. So, we pretty much knew we wanted a decent sized front loader. We have friends or family with their own young families who have just bought the Kenmore Elite line or the Whirlpool Duet line (they’re both manufactured by Whirlpool to nearly identical specs), so we were looking at their lower and mid-tier line. I had heard good things from friends at work about the LG line as well. We also had joked around about getting the GE Profile Harmony line only because the washer and dryer apparently “communicate” with each other. We were mostly concerned about the washer so didn’t really do much research on the dryer.
The one thing we didn’t do before heading out on the President’s Day weekend research and purchase trip was check Consumer Reports or Epinions or whatever. In the end, we relied on our own BS detectors and cell phones to help us sort out the differences. We did run to the bookstore and buy the 2005 Consumer Reports guide. We identified three major differences for us:
- water temps – Some of the washers have a “sanitary cycle” which uses an on-board heating system to add another 10 or 20 degrees to the temp of the hot water to “kill germs” and the like. Cleaning cloth diapers, for example, would be one use. We didn’t know if we needed this, but because both of us have allergies, we figured we were neutral on this.
- spin cycle RPM – We’re skeptical about this but it stuck with us enough so that we considered it for the three models. The salespeople were telling us that the higher RPM motors would dry the clothes better in the spin cycle, leading to lower drying times in the dryer. This makes sense, and even our Consumer Reports book mentions this. We just didn’t know if it really offset the cost of the feature ($200 in the case of the Elites for the fastest motor) and the cost of running a spin cycle at 1300. We ended up trusting the books and the salespeople on this, so tried to balance price and speed.
- brand quality – The cheapest model we saw in the ~$1000 washers was the LG. Everyone, including the Best Buy salesguy, pointed out that the LG brand didn’t have an established reputation in the States. We were cognizant of this, especially since no one we knew had one. It was significantly cheaper than the others, though, feature for feature, enough so that we could even buy the extended warranty and be at the price of the middle tier Elite (the HE3t).
After looking at this, talking to a bunch of folks, walking back and forth between Best Buy and Sears a few times and a trip to Home Depot, we ended up selecting the LG WM2277HW Washer and the matching dryer (DLE5977W) for our purchase. We, for now, have purchased the extended warranty from Best Buy (the guy mentioned at the very end that one key part (the motor) was difficult to find in the U.S.), but we’re thinking about canceling it since we don’t expect this to die in 5 years. The maintenance hassles, if any, will come after that unless this thing is a lemon or is faulty, like some of the earlier Maytag Neptunes were. I think I’m willing to take a chance on paying $2-300 later to avoid paying $149 now.
The LG had a lot of fancy features we’re never going to use, has the Sanitary cycle, and has an 1100RPM spin cycle. It’s also a direct drive system, so no belts connecting motor to drum. It has the normal features, too, like delay wash, a stainless steel drum, and a 3.72 cu. ft. capacity (which means we could put in our laundry for 2 weeks in one load).
I’m finally reading the Epinions reviews now and it looks like we should be alright. I get to go play around with dryer venting tomorrow.
We have a vent run for the old dryer, but it’s been falling apart… it’s on our list of things to fix and the new dryer is making me get that all taken care of.
Some interesting facts if you’re looking for a new washer or dryer:
- Most front loaders automatically adjust water levels based on what is in the washer
- You can get your washer and dryer in fancy colors that cost extra
- Your electric company might give you a rebate if your washer is an Energy Star compliant model
- High efficiency washers (most front loaders and some top loaders) “work better” with low suds detergents
- Elite and Duet RPMs vary between 1000RPM and 1300RPM





February 19th, 2005 at 7:25 PM
Special thanks to Lesa and Jonathan on the info…. Now we can be almost as cool as you guys with our fancy washer and dryer.
And Kirsten, Myles Pat, and Rebecca — I recall our New Year’s Eve conversation of getting excited about appliances. Man, Sujal was almost wetting himself, he was so excited about buying new appliances. Me, i was okay with ” ‘Ol Noisy” in the basement.
February 19th, 2005 at 9:50 PM
You’re real grown-ups now! You know you’re old when you start getting excited about new appliances.
We went the opposite way with our washer/dryer. We basically bought the not-quite bottom of the line Sears stuff because we probably won’t live in this house more than 5 years and we’ll just leave them for the new owners. We did get a gas dryer though which I am really happy with, it’s much more efficient.
February 19th, 2005 at 11:11 PM
I recommend sticking with the extended warranty. My dryer busted about a week after the 1 year manufacturer’s warranty expirer, and I had to pay $100+ for repairs.
Also, if you’re messing with dryer venting, give Dr Dryer Vent a call: 1.866.4DR.VENT. They’re the only company in CT that specializes in cleaning vents thoroughly (other companies do it, but it’s a half-assed job). These guys attach a big-ass blower to one end, turn it on, and then break up debris in the vent with a long wire attached to a drill. The wire breaks up birds’ nests, lint buildup, etc, and the blower shoots it out the side of the house. Gets rids of a big ass fire hazard; I was stunned how much flammable crap came shooting out the side of my vent.
Also, they can install aluminum (?) dryer venting for about $100… they did for me.
February 20th, 2005 at 12:06 AM
Thanks for the tip. I think I’m going to try to do it myself. I’m planning on going into that side of teh basement and seeing how bad it would be to run it myself. The existing vent is mostly clean, but is plastic and has some minor cracks… bad news all around.
I’ll give them a call if it looks too difficult.
February 20th, 2005 at 2:12 PM
You can actually buy the aluminum vent, replace it on your dryer and run it to the wall mount. Depending on the wall mount, you may need to cut into it (if it is dry wall) or set up a new connection (a couple of different ways; more labor intensive but very doable). The cost for the new, aluminum vent is relatively cheap. The patch work for dry wall is easy, quick and not that expensive… the taping is the hardest part but if not painting, no big deal.
Depending on how much vent runs through the wall… cleaning can be easy… might take a little while depending on whether or not it’s curved.
Congrats! on the new purchase.
I am buying a new refrigerator with my tax refund this weekend. A 26.5 cubic Foot side by side with filtered water and crushed/cubed ice. I have already decided (because I can afford it with my tax refund) to forego connecting the refrigerator to the water source myself. This time, the plummer can do it.
As my wife and I usually say… February is tax refund/new appliance month.
BTW, if you run into problems with the venting…call my brother. Number is on the NERFL list. He owns his own home renovations business and can give tips and pointers over the phone… had him on the phone ten times when I gutted and rebuilt my downstairs bathroom.
Congratulations, again!! and good luck with the extra work.
February 22nd, 2005 at 10:38 AM
We figured it would be nice to have a set that would last us through whenever we had kids
Aaaaaah!!! Way to spring that one on us, guys!
February 25th, 2005 at 1:00 AM
Buying a Washer and Dryer
FatMixx � First big appliance purchase These consumers write an entire report on their adventure to buy a washer and dryer. They eventually consulted with ePinion and Consumer Reports, but they did a lot of their own investigation, too. Here…
November 19th, 2005 at 12:57 PM
I always used the hotest water available when i washed my kids diapers. Rubber pants were hand washed and rinsed, then pinned up outside on the clothesline along with the diapers on laundry day.
January 11th, 2006 at 2:03 PM
Do you still like the LG? I have been reading up on the front-loaders. I like the idea of saving on water and energy savings from spinning the water out of the clothes more efficiently so drying time is cut. I have not been too thrilled about the consumer feedback for the Maytag Neptunes or Sears products and saw the E-pinions reviews on the LG model. Do you still like the LG? Let me know if it’s still living up to the original excitement. I need the washer/dryer combo. Thanks.
January 11th, 2006 at 2:11 PM
We still do. The machines have worked great, they’re quiet, and they clean well.
If you’re looking at the combo machine in order to save on having to bye a separate washer and dryer, I’d caution you about that. It’s definitely more convenient, but take a close look at the running times for the wash and dryer cycle. While it’s able to do both jobs, it doesn’t do it as well.
I remember, for example, that the drying time for the dryer was way, way longer in the combo unit than the standalone unit. Our dryer takes about 55 minutes to dry one of our typical loads (two adults). The brochure said that the combo unit would take at least another 20 minutes or so.
There’s energy costs there, obviously.
Hope that helps.
January 11th, 2006 at 4:57 PM
As the primary laundry doer in the house (Sujal’s laundry, too), I feel it is my duty to respond to you, Jennifer. Yes, we still like the LG, but in all honesty, I’m not sure I see a hell of a lot of difference between out current washer and others. I’d never owned appliances before, so they are not as crappy as 2 cycle-option puppies — and I think that’s my favorite part — the varieties of option. I ;like that I can wash things quickly — on the fast cycle — like rags. I feel like I have a bit more control over how the thing is washing and drying, but it takes just as long as any washer or dryer I’ve had in the past. The dryer has a sensor feature so when it senses the clothes are dry it finishes its cycle. Let’s just say the dryer and I do not always agree that the clothes are fully dry. So I either set it for extra dry or I hang the still slightly damp clothes on our drying rack. But I;ll tell you, using this washer and dryer — I feel like housewife extraordinaire! It makes me want to put on a frilly apron and dance with a mop!
February 12th, 2006 at 7:01 PM
We thought we were doing the right thing when buying a handsome LG front loading clothes washer and matching dryer – save energy, save water, save the environment. LG makes nice machines. The well-designed controls and switches are much easier to read than those on any other manufacturers’ machines: the washer does a great job cleaning the clothes, and the dryer does its job equally well.
But we didn’t realize that when the manufacturer’s instructions say the machines must be installed on a solidly built floor, they meant a SOLID CONCRETE floor. Our floors are wood framed, 2×10’s 16 inches on center, with a short span. The house is well built, but that’s not good enough. The front-loading washing machine shakes and vibrates the whole house when spinning at medium speed, heaven help us if we go up to extra high speed. I think it would set off earthquake alarms!
We have now done our homework, a little bit late, and find that these bad vibrations are experienced by owners of all brands of front-loading horizontal axis machines. Apparently the manufacturers have not yet learned how to control the dynamics of a horizontally spinning wash tub with an unbalanced load, even though the design has been used for years in commercial laundries and laundromats. A friend of ours who used to own a number of laundromats said, “We always had to bolt our front-loading machines to the floor.” Our understanding now is: all front-loading washers will shake and vibrate; they must be level with all four feet bearing equally on the floor; the floor must be absolutely solid like concrete.
So we have two choices – rebuild the house, or bite the bullet and trade-in these almost-new LG front-loaders for a pair of top-loading Maytags, old technology like the ones that served us well for 25 years. Even that may soon become a problem. We have heard that the USEPA has enacted energy standards that will cause manufacturers to stop producing top-loading clothes washers in the next couple of years.
Our recommendation: if your laundry area has a wooden floor, wait for the front-loading horizontal axis technology to improve. Instead, buy a good quality top-loading clothes washer and dryer. Buy the long-term service agreement, so you have options when parts become unavailable. But by all means, buy the top-loading machine NOW.
February 12th, 2006 at 7:10 PM
NWArchitect, great point. We read the same thing but luckily, our wash area is in the basement on a concrete floor. This was the most common complaint we found online about all of the front loaders.
February 12th, 2006 at 8:45 PM
If I recall correctly, there was a Maytag that had this agitator (or lacked an agitator) that worked like a front loader but was a top loader — don’t know if that would share the shakity-shakes.
Top Loading Neptune
December 8th, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Hi! I stumbled across the article while researching washers and dryers and I linked it my current post. Still great information! Thank you.