The local Republican party in Louisville, KY is distributing bumper stickers that say “Kerry is bin Laden’s man/Bush is my man” to people at their campaign tables. Way to raise the level of discourse, Republicans.
I swear every day that goes by, I’m becoming more and more partisan. It was fun being a centrist for a long time, but this President is an ignorant ass… his party seems keen to join him in ignorant assness. A party whose core attack is to spread baseless fears about their opponent is just reaching the bottom of the barrel.





July 16th, 2004 at 11:12 pm
I agree with you that the bumper sticker is wrong… no American should be considered a link to bin Laden.
But I find it reprehesible that Moveon.org still has the Bush/Hitler file floating around their web site. And of course, Ozzie has done a Bush/Hitler compilation as well.
From a policy stand-point, I would like to hear more debate about policy and agenda then the constant one-ups-manship character assasination from both parties right now.
I found myself telling my 8 year old to act her age. Then I turned on the TV to find out she was doing a better job then these people running for the most powerful position in the free world.
July 16th, 2004 at 11:51 pm
doug, you are so full of shit it’s getting tiring. MoveOn doesn’t have the Hitler ad on their site. Come up with something original instead of what the local Republican party official is telling you. They pulled the ads.
That’s harsh, but if you know about the Hitler ads, you surely know that MoveOn.org didn’t sponsor the ads, had no hand in their creation, and did not endorse the ad, either. It was a community ad contest and someone went too far (actually, I believe it was two ads, but still, it was like 2 out of a thousand).
Here is Spinsanity’s analysis of the whole flap:
http://www.spinsanity.org/post.html?2004_06_27_archive.html#108837146499425772
This was about the Bush campaign misleading folks about MoveOn.org in their latest campaign ad, but if you go down to the bottom of that story, you’ll find links to the earlier stories.
July 17th, 2004 at 10:48 pm
as of last monday, the ad was on their site at the following address:
http://www.moveon.org/images/renamed.again.renamed.mov. FKbxnT3hzaHCcOR7vWvRYmZpbGUtMTM4OQ–.mpg *
I linked to it myself for the first time. It has been subsequently moved or removed. But since I didn’t see it until this week, it was still there.
As far as it being a submission, I agree. It was. But it keeps appearing.
And whether someone has hacked in to keep placing it on their web site or someone at moveon.org keeps placing it up there, it is wrong.
Just like the bumperstickers you list above are wrong!
My point is (and I can think for myself, thank you! don’t need the local party filling me in) that both parties, both sides PACs, and both campaigns to a degree are misssing the point… this campaign is about issues… it is about families… it is about the future of this country. So instead of the attack ads, bumper stickers, etc… with all the negativity… why don’t we get down to some real discussion about who is fit to lead.
which was the point of my first post… “From a policy stand-point, I would like to hear more debate about policy and agenda then the constant one-ups-manship character assasination from both parties right now.”
July 18th, 2004 at 2:17 am
Read the explanation from MoveOn about why that link worked last week:
http://news.corporate.findlaw.com/prnewswire/20040712/12jul2004153137.html
it hasn’t been linked on their site at all. They probably handed the URL out to journalists who asked to see it again and one of them passed it on to Drudge.
But you know, you can keep holding them out there as a group doing wrong… last I checked, nearly all of their ads focused on key issues, jobs, the war, energy policy, and honesty in government.
July 18th, 2004 at 9:10 am
I never said that they were a group doing wrong… Most of their stuff is above board, as you point out. I agree with you on that point.
It was wrong that the link was out there for even a day and wrong that the bumper sticker is out there period.
Look beyond the examples of inflamation. I think we agree that the negativity needs to end. I was just pointing out that it exists on both sides of the aisle. Nothing more.
July 18th, 2004 at 9:25 am
Except the link was set up for journalists writing about the story, according to MoveOn…. they never published the link on the site. So, if you still think this is “wrong” then you’re essentially saying that they should’ve declined the journalists requests.
Which is a fine thing to say, but I think an unnecessarily demanding requirement for MoveOn… you might also want to look into the Bush ad that uses the same footage that’s still on the Bush ‘04 site.
Final thought is that saying there is negativity on both sides is like pointing out that there are two candidates. It’s not really helpful. It’s like the people who say that the level of discourse has gotten coarse in American political debate and then continue to report on various “character” issues non-stop.
In other words, don’t complain about it, do something about it. You have an opportunity here and around the net or on you campaign site to focus on meaningful discussions about policy. You choose to respond to posts that don’t contain really any policy discussion… one was just a quote from a radical senator, this one was just a blurb about another stupid bumper sticker from the Bush campaign. These aren’t the policy topics, these are the “did ya see that” topics.